Subject	OK, good idea in theory, however; it's not a solution
Posted by	BigTDogg (MA) on February 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM
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In Reply To	It's too bad that the real innovators wont' just play posted by canyoncarver on February 25, 2010 at 06:50 PM
Message	The issues highlited by others all apply. Quality control and a lack of confidentiality honoring defeat the whole purpose of innovating. What good is releasing a product if the company who you contract to make it sells their "own" version on eBay for 50% less than you do? What if the supplier decides to substitute a new material for what you specified, without telling you? They do it to big companies (I've seen it first hand), what makes you think they wouldn't do it to small operation? And for the record, no matter how many wangdoodlers Vuk sucks, AMS is still a small operation. I'm not crying, I'm expressing my disgust with one of your sponsors, and the complacency of many of the 3ZC members. I'm pissed because I wanted a pair of these for my recent build, and now they may never be available. BTW, I didn't lump you into the "idiot" group. I think you're actually one of the more (relatively) reasonable moderators over there. You allow for a good amount of discussion, and then close the thread. "I'm glad I have the MSP mani's." - jschrauwen 22:20:13 06/10/08 "...Downpipes own. They own everything...anything...all there ever was and will be...they should be stock on all cars. Screw the environment, emissions, noise! I love them...I shall name my first-born after them with glee..." - SeedyRom 05:13:20 10/03/02 "i love the cock" - genic 22:20:47 09/25/03 "I hope you get fucked in the ass with a pringles can." - ni[X]it 14:53:53 02/02/06 "Either ignore him or beat him up. Anything else will be over his head." - Marshall 12:28:23 08/18/04 "i've got to the point where i can drive the Z at its limits and i want more" - shadowZ 16:29:56 08/31/04 "I was way more timid then than I am now about getting in there and yanking on things." - TT XTZ 13:30:34 07/25/05 "Just ran out to get some knee pads. I'm ready now... BRING.....IT.....ON... :-) " - Dave N 19:04:30 10/31/07
Follow Ups	Maybe now those idiots will start seeing the light - BigTDogg (MA) 09:16:28 02/25/10 I have to say it cause I like you like a brother... - Cap927(Boston) 09:34:52 02/25/10 Fishville is where its at. (n/m) - Dream Z 09:57:02 02/25/10 mafia wars ftmfw. (n/m) - KasbeKZ(VA) 11:12:43 02/25/10 got my a$$ kicked by some old lady when I tried to - Cap927(Boston) 11:18:44 02/25/10 after which you ran home and played MafiaWars :-) (n/m) - ZEngineer 14:13:07 02/25/10 I think her SN was Boss Feghali.. I'll get her some day :P (n/m) - Cap927(Boston) 14:45:30 02/25/10 COD MW2 > mafia wars x 10 (n/m) - inf 14:26:24 02/25/10 2ndnd - Dream Z 14:32:58 02/25/10 lol - just beat that w/ a buddy of mine this past weekend. - Z_Cherub 08:48:26 02/26/10 x like a million trillion (n/m) - LivinTheDream 22:29:27 02/25/10 Only game on earth you can bring a knife to a gunfight. - TheSlimOne 12:22:54 02/26/10 As long as you don't use a heartbeat sensor then you're fine - BigTDogg (MA) 13:12:00 02/26/10 I don't do any of those games. If I get bored, I hit the 360 - BigTDogg (MA) 14:16:35 02/25/10 iracing... - LordZ 14:43:26 02/25/10 It's a set up. - Bernie (NoVA) 09:48:07 02/25/10 I wouldn't be surprised, just so infuriating (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:53:04 02/25/10 2nd'ing what Carlos said (except for the F'ville crap). - Dave N 10:03:12 02/25/10 since my town does not allow me to have a farm like what - Cap927(Boston) 10:23:14 02/25/10 2ndndndnd on all points. (n/m) - Josher 11:31:54 02/25/10 well... - DracoZ 10:04:19 02/25/10 It is what it is - aliaZ 10:10:03 02/25/10 Re: It is what it is - DracoZ 10:24:16 02/25/10 Apples vs Oranges. - Dave N 10:15:59 02/25/10 Re: Apples vs Oranges. - DracoZ 10:29:25 02/25/10 But that's the problem - 3ZC removes the negative info. - Dave N 10:42:29 02/25/10 Re: But that's the problem - 3ZC removes the negative info. - DracoZ 10:58:07 02/25/10 Re: But that's the problem - 3ZC removes the negative info. - gbeto 11:12:20 02/25/10 haha - Insomniac (VA) 11:28:50 02/25/10 Here you get made fun of my the majority of the members - Z_Cherub 11:30:16 02/25/10 Re: Here you get made fun of my the majority of the members - gbeto 11:46:54 02/25/10 lol (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 12:12:48 02/25/10 .... - Z_Cherub 13:42:00 02/25/10 *by* - Dave N 11:51:59 02/25/10 Yep - I fail typing today... - Z_Cherub 13:43:13 02/25/10 Re: Yep - I fail typing today... - gbeto 13:46:48 02/25/10 You mean "my" a lot. (n/m) - Z_Cherub 14:18:10 02/25/10 Re: You mean "my" a lot. - gbeto 14:26:28 02/25/10 he is "fail typing" still/again (n/m) - 93DemonCar 16:02:58 02/25/10 Nope. I was joking about his joke fail. - Z_Cherub 16:06:57 02/25/10 K' I will go back to sleep then (n/m) - 93DemonCar 16:22:56 02/25/10 Don't you hate having to explain jokes? - Dave N 17:25:31 02/25/10 That's why I never made it as a stand-up - Z_Cherub 21:50:37 02/25/10 lol. (n/m) - kenecchi 07:07:50 02/26/10 Re: Maybe now those idiots will start seeing the light - type993 10:06:09 02/25/10 Fair enough, I keep forgetting to write without name calling - BigTDogg (MA) 10:33:13 02/25/10 Re: Fair enough, I keep forgetting to write without name calling - DracoZ 10:45:57 02/25/10 Re: Fair enough, I keep forgetting to write without name calling - type993 11:13:55 02/25/10 SZ do them, have a set on my Z (n/m) - JaffaUK 10:08:51 02/25/10 sorry, I was talking about the accordian pipes - JaffaUK 10:22:05 02/25/10 Oh, there are more sets out there :) - Woody75 (Denver) 10:15:59 02/25/10 Mike Kojima modified the OEM inlets - ArubaDave 10:45:31 02/25/10 All he did was smooth out the bumps in the oem pipes. - Woody75 (Denver) 11:42:16 02/25/10 And I thought he smoothed the bumps in the outlets? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:47:19 02/25/10 Who's discussing outlets here besides you? :) (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 14:18:23 02/25/10 If the voices inside Tony's head count, that'd be about 20. (n/m) - Dave N 14:42:49 02/25/10 I didn't think he smoothed the inlets, only the outlets - BigTDogg (MA) 15:40:55 02/25/10 Like Maglito's? (n/m) - SeanK (StL) 14:55:23 02/25/10 Thought he had MSP pipes as well? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 15:27:21 02/25/10 yes, he does (n/m) - aliaZ 15:42:33 02/25/10 Doh, got confused with turbo outlets. (n/m) - SeanK (StL) 10:00:20 02/26/10 I smoothed out the bumps in his turbo outlets (n/m) - aliaZ 11:31:31 02/26/10 hopefully there will be ashspec inlet piping. woot (n/m) - ali300zx 10:50:59 02/25/10 I personally use 3ZC more then this forum since it was the - leftfordead86 11:15:18 02/25/10 Re: I personally use 3ZC more then this forum since it was the - DracoZ 11:34:42 02/25/10 Even if a few guys "see the light", there are still - just4kinks 11:24:17 02/25/10 those sure are purdy (n/m) - moxie (SF) 11:34:23 02/25/10 It sucks when you see this. - zfreak(Dallas) 11:49:35 02/25/10 Copyright is for art/text/music/etc. - kuah@splparts.com 12:08:19 02/25/10 Don't forget that you have to defend every infringement - Adam (NoVA) 12:20:18 02/25/10 I understand. - zfreak(Dallas) 12:56:23 02/25/10 Kuah deleted his response to you but he is right. - 5280Z_nightstalker 14:02:30 02/25/10 Ya I saw it... - zfreak(Dallas) 14:44:44 02/25/10 Patent pending gives no legal rights - kuah@splparts.com 15:56:33 02/25/10 yep - aliaZ 18:51:08 02/25/10 You would need an International Patent. - ni[X]it 20:32:00 02/25/10 . (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:12:44 02/26/10 I wonder when AMS is going to start making the - leftfordead86 14:10:24 02/25/10 Re: I wonder when AMS is going to start making the - DracoZ 15:14:19 02/25/10 ive seen some too.. (n/m) - Halo Z 15:40:19 02/25/10 Everyone needs to watch a movie called "Flash of Genius". - BeaZty 18:29:19 02/25/10 IIRC, the lawsuit was settled in his favor. (n/m) - Dave N 18:39:37 02/25/10 *Spoiler Alert* would be nice :( (n/m) - BeaZty 18:44:39 02/25/10 ROFL - Oops...my bad. - Dave N 19:31:26 02/25/10 It's ok. You get a pass for having a cool name. (n/m) - BeaZty 23:24:32 02/25/10 *thumbs up* (n/m) - Dave N 09:02:32 02/26/10 It's too bad that the real innovators wont' just play - canyoncarver 18:50:36 02/25/10 yep - aliaZ 18:57:41 02/25/10 True. Just look at the back of the PC, Mac, iPhone, iPod, - ConVerTT 20:48:35 02/25/10 I prefer quality control on something this vital. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 21:49:38 02/25/10 as do I - aliaZ 23:15:43 02/25/10 Agreed. - rojoloco (San Diego) 17:26:02 02/26/10 ship production overseas then you have copies >> - ztunerz 18:58:28 02/25/10 Your other option is to get stuff done locally - canyoncarver 19:38:17 02/25/10 LOL - >>> another option is to "screw the Z market" (n/m) - ztunerz 23:56:24 02/25/10 You didn't actually believe that story ... - ConVerTT 20:56:25 02/25/10 Then where is my ChiMac, ChiPod and ChiPhone? (n/m) - ConVerTT 20:58:08 02/25/10 Re: Then where is my ChiMac, ChiPod and ChiPhone? - Guapo 21:06:24 02/25/10 ROFL - I stand corrected. WTF - ConVerTT 21:14:58 02/25/10 When you say "then send the production off-shore" do you.. - BeaZty 19:11:23 02/25/10 OK, good idea in theory, however; it's not a solution - BigTDogg (MA) 20:26:49 02/25/10 There will always be the "what ifs" - canyoncarver 23:46:59 02/25/10 Re: There will always be the "what ifs" - type993 11:20:49 02/26/10 Seriously? - 96300NAZ 20:37:13 02/25/10 honestly - thats a shortsighted view >> - ztunerz 23:58:36 02/25/10 ha.. - type993 11:52:43 02/26/10 LOL (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (Selin Design) 17:13:00 02/26/10 Sorry, I have a set of them, too. :) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 15:53:37 02/26/10 Get your hands dirty and make one yourself - RevTech 16:28:43 02/26/10 Says the guy with AMS manifolds and downpipes... no thanks (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:21:56 02/27/10 Okay dude. Leave it to MSP to baby feed you everytime (n/m) - RevTech 14:56:54 02/28/10 OK dude, leave it to other companies to AMS' R&D - BigTDogg (MA) 20:10:12 02/28/10 inlet pipes are no real innovation. I've made many custom - RevTech 01:56:49 03/01/10 I'll agree about the original price - BigTDogg (MA) 06:27:39 03/01/10
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